cinemafan2 (cinemafan2) wrote,

Recent changes at the Queen Mary

                                                          Updated November 5, 2011

Progress on the Lifeboat Project

In the last two years an effort has been made by the City of Long Beach to stablize the remaining 22 (of 24) lifeboats on the Queen Mary.  Almost twenty have been scraped, patched and painted.  But so far none have been restored.  (The lifeboat in davit 23 on the starboard side, a fiberglass boat that is not original equipment on the Queen Mary, apparently was not treated.)   

The last two on the port side remain to be treated.   So this leaves the two empty davits on the port side still open.   Will replacements be found? 

The two empty sets of davits at the back of the port side of the Queen Mary.  The lifeboats in these davits were destroyed in Long Beach.

Similiar lifeboats are readily available elswehere in the world.  The wreck of PLATINUM II (ex-INDEPENDENCE).

And also open is the question as to whether at least one of the original boats will be fully restored? Finally, when will the boats be covered? Leaving them open to the elements for another winter rainy season seems self-defeating.

The second lifeboat on the starboard side photographed on Saturday, November 5, 2011.   Left uncovered for two years after being treated this boats is already peeling.  Will another round of scrape, patch and paint strip away yet another layer of authenticity because the city and operator simply didn't have the sense to cover the boats they treated?


In the past few weeks the escalators from the wharf to the crosswalk have been demolished.  Now the escalators from the crosswalk to Promenade deck are in the process of being dismantled.  This opens the question as to what will be done by with the crosswalk itself that obscures the view of the ship from the wharf and adjacent property.  And it also raises the question as to whether the two elevators in the forward tower are an adequate solution for moving people up from the wharf to Promenade Deck in busy times.

The huge service entrances amidships are partially obscured by the crosswalk.  With a little thought a less obtrusive servicing arrangement is possible.  And will passenger elevators finally be installed in the aft tower?  Or will all traffic to the upper decks from the wharf be dependent on the existing two elevators at the forward boarding tower?

The escalators from the crosswalk to the upper decks are in the process of being demolished.

The vast amidships service entrance on R Deck created in the LongBeach conversion.  Compare this to the modest service entrances on the in-service cruise ships that dock by the Queen Mary.  

A Carnival Line ship being serviced.  The service openings are just above the water line and are not obtrusive.


A similar approach is possible on the Queen Mary just behind the aft boarding tower.  The large two story high gallery created there in Long Beach might serve as a delivery and distribution center for the ship. 

An internal working alley along the entire starboard side of D deck is possible including a large cold storage area on D deck just under the central kitchens.  It would be serviced by high speed elevator(s) to the galleys  above just as on a contemporary cruise ships.  This arrangement would allow for efficient and discreet handling of needed food storage.  It would also allow for the closing of the unsightly amidship service entrance and enhance the value of the real estate on R deck where prime real estate is being wasted as "cold storage" space for the central kitchens.

Passenger elevators in the aft tower - Could they lead to restoration/redevelopment of this underutilized portion of the ship?

The aft tower entrance at the Promenade Deck level.  Passenger elevators were never installed in this tower.

The space for two passenger elevators apparently exists on the left of the photo.  But none have ever been installed.  With the removal of the escalators to the upper decks, perhaps installing passenger elevators here should be considered.  If this was married with the closure of the amidships service entrance the aft boarding tower would be far more desireable for guest use.  (The service entrance would be unseen behind this tower.)  This would open up the full amidships view of the Queen Mary and make the real estate on R deck, that is the former second class dining room area, far more attractive for restoration and development.

The second class main staircase - before it disappears in the chaos of current R deck.

The current R deck crosswalk. This was once an elegant passenger boarding area.

The port side of the former second class dining room as it looks today.

The central portion of the second class dining room as requisitioned for cold storage today.

A small portion on the starboard side is currently used as a crew cafeteria.

The second class dining room, called cabin class, in use in the 1960's.  It could seat close to 400 people.

Disney was considering a restoration of this large dining room to enhance the food and beverage/catering/banqueting sales on the Queen Mary.


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